the handguns, we had the parents of the teenager of chicago, hadiya pendleton sitting with the first lady last night. nothing could have been more heartbreaking than seeing those people and seeing others. and your pain is of more distant years but no less raw to you. you lost your husband and your son was was grievously injured. >> you know, i look at it with handguns. on some of the things we are going to be doing. closing the gun show loophole because most of those guns are illegal guns. they're not people that went through their background checks and bought these guns. the majority of them are buying them on the black market. they're going to the gun shows. they're getting them over the internet. so legislation that we're talking about can stop that. it's not going to stop immediately. but it's something we can do long term to save lives. you know when you're talking about over 11,000 homicides a year, i understand that people say, well, you're only going to be able maybe correct 8% to 12%. well, that 8% to 12% are quite a few number of people's lives. they don't even talk about t